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		<title>Comment on Confessions of a Downton Abbey Fan by Katie Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s great to hear from you, Drina.  I totally agree that Downton is an intellectualish soap-opera.  I felt disgusted with myself after watching Season 1 two years ago, disgusted that I let myself be emotionally moved and deceived by the producers and forced to remind myself that reality is much more cheerful.  The show is rife with post-modern despair, despair that anyone can be really good, despair that a story can have an actual start and finish, and despair that endings can be resolute and happy.  

After watching Season 1, I resolved to have nothing further to do with the tricksy series...and, then, you know, Season 2 rolled around.  Devin and I discussed at some length whether we would subject ourselves to the whims of the writers and producers, who don&#039;t play nice.  We agreed to watch the first show and see what we thought.  We watched the first show, didn&#039;t watch Episode II, and have watched the others a bit at a time.  I am doing my best to keep my emotions out in left field as I watch, resolving instead to enjoy the costumes and good grammar and the very entertaining story line--what WILL happen next, one wonders?

As you said, Drina, the story line really is hilarious.  And, now that I am aware that I am watching a soap opera, I am not surprised by the events as they unfold.  Of course Matthew&#039;s legs should return to full use.  And, of course Lord G and his wife should become distant and that the cute new housemaid has a crush on him.  And, of course Lady Mary should continue to hopelessly entangle herself with the wrong man.  Now that I know the paradigm behind the story (i.e. despair and dissonance), I am able to watch rather impassively and enjoy the lovely people and their lovely accents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great to hear from you, Drina.  I totally agree that Downton is an intellectualish soap-opera.  I felt disgusted with myself after watching Season 1 two years ago, disgusted that I let myself be emotionally moved and deceived by the producers and forced to remind myself that reality is much more cheerful.  The show is rife with post-modern despair, despair that anyone can be really good, despair that a story can have an actual start and finish, and despair that endings can be resolute and happy.  </p>
<p>After watching Season 1, I resolved to have nothing further to do with the tricksy series&#8230;and, then, you know, Season 2 rolled around.  Devin and I discussed at some length whether we would subject ourselves to the whims of the writers and producers, who don&#8217;t play nice.  We agreed to watch the first show and see what we thought.  We watched the first show, didn&#8217;t watch Episode II, and have watched the others a bit at a time.  I am doing my best to keep my emotions out in left field as I watch, resolving instead to enjoy the costumes and good grammar and the very entertaining story line&#8211;what WILL happen next, one wonders?</p>
<p>As you said, Drina, the story line really is hilarious.  And, now that I am aware that I am watching a soap opera, I am not surprised by the events as they unfold.  Of course Matthew&#8217;s legs should return to full use.  And, of course Lord G and his wife should become distant and that the cute new housemaid has a crush on him.  And, of course Lady Mary should continue to hopelessly entangle herself with the wrong man.  Now that I know the paradigm behind the story (i.e. despair and dissonance), I am able to watch rather impassively and enjoy the lovely people and their lovely accents.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Confessions of a Downton Abbey Fan by Drina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the middle of Season 2, and would agree with most of the positive comments on here thus far.  In my opinion, though, it&#039;s getting a little soap opera-ish.  Well, more than a little.  Patrick is dead.  Wait, no he&#039;s not.  But then he disappears.  Matthew loves Mary, then what&#039;s-her-name his fiancee, then Mary again.  Lord G kisses the maid out of nowhere.  What???    I mean, I think it&#039;s worth watching still, but I&#039;m not totally happy with it.  I&#039;d take Jane Austen over Downton any day, IMHO.  I won&#039;t totally dismiss it, I still plan to watch the rest of it.  But I probably won&#039;t go recommending it highly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the middle of Season 2, and would agree with most of the positive comments on here thus far.  In my opinion, though, it&#8217;s getting a little soap opera-ish.  Well, more than a little.  Patrick is dead.  Wait, no he&#8217;s not.  But then he disappears.  Matthew loves Mary, then what&#8217;s-her-name his fiancee, then Mary again.  Lord G kisses the maid out of nowhere.  What???    I mean, I think it&#8217;s worth watching still, but I&#8217;m not totally happy with it.  I&#8217;d take Jane Austen over Downton any day, IMHO.  I won&#8217;t totally dismiss it, I still plan to watch the rest of it.  But I probably won&#8217;t go recommending it highly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two More Free Copies to be Won by Devin Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed it by one!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by Devin Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David I fail it too about that often. Don&#039;t know why since it&#039;s just the standard reCaptcha. Thanks for bearing with it. I&#039;ve thought of switching to Disqus but that has its own issues.

Yes I&#039;ve read lots of Joel Salatin. I recommend You Can Farm first. It&#039;s general and has lots of good ideas. Realize that Salatin is coming from the perspective of wanting to be able to make a full time living for your family from farming (and farm-related products) alone. Even if that&#039;s not your ultimate goal he&#039;s got lots of neat ideas and very practical too.

We also own Pastured Poultry Profits. It is good, nothing else like it among this genre of books. I actually ran fifty chickens out on our backyard acre this past spring/summer, building the chicken tractors off his model. I&#039;d recommend getting it after You Can Farm.

God bless!
Devin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David I fail it too about that often. Don&#8217;t know why since it&#8217;s just the standard reCaptcha. Thanks for bearing with it. I&#8217;ve thought of switching to Disqus but that has its own issues.</p>
<p>Yes I&#8217;ve read lots of Joel Salatin. I recommend You Can Farm first. It&#8217;s general and has lots of good ideas. Realize that Salatin is coming from the perspective of wanting to be able to make a full time living for your family from farming (and farm-related products) alone. Even if that&#8217;s not your ultimate goal he&#8217;s got lots of neat ideas and very practical too.</p>
<p>We also own Pastured Poultry Profits. It is good, nothing else like it among this genre of books. I actually ran fifty chickens out on our backyard acre this past spring/summer, building the chicken tractors off his model. I&#8217;d recommend getting it after You Can Farm.</p>
<p>God bless!<br />
Devin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by David Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augustine: Sounds interesting. I love the idea of a refuge for us white collar distributists. I still think a return to the land is a necessary part of things for at least a sizeable portion of us, but I agree that for those with no vocation for farming, there should be distributist alternatives to the wage-slave rat race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augustine: Sounds interesting. I love the idea of a refuge for us white collar distributists. I still think a return to the land is a necessary part of things for at least a sizeable portion of us, but I agree that for those with no vocation for farming, there should be distributist alternatives to the wage-slave rat race.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by David Meyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Meyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the solid leads. I will be looking into this. Being in a townhome a garden is out of the question. We do homebrew and make outr own soap though, and are trying to always make small steps toward this lifestyle. One thing that may be a benefit for me is that I rent. So I wouldnt have to worry about trying to sell if I find a place to start something small. Devin have you read any of Joe Saladin? Is his book about starting a chicken operation any good?

btw your sites captcha is the toughest in town. I fail about half the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the solid leads. I will be looking into this. Being in a townhome a garden is out of the question. We do homebrew and make outr own soap though, and are trying to always make small steps toward this lifestyle. One thing that may be a benefit for me is that I rent. So I wouldnt have to worry about trying to sell if I find a place to start something small. Devin have you read any of Joe Saladin? Is his book about starting a chicken operation any good?</p>
<p>btw your sites captcha is the toughest in town. I fail about half the time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by Augustine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augustine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very interested in a distributive economy, something that some can do without the whole economy becoming distributive, though the hope is that it does.

However, many of the early works on distributism were of a time that is not here anymore and I think that this is a problem when the scenarios of those works are transposed to our times.  Not that I think that our times are fateful, but that in our times I question the chances of long-term survival of the effort.

I think that we need to actualize distributism without agrarianism for it to be successful, at least to more people who have no vocation to work the land.  Perhaps the best example of such an actualization of distributism in the modern world is the Basque Mandragon Cooperative (http://bit.ly/wYwg9K), which is wholly owned by its 80000+ employees and was setup by Fr. Madariaga (http://bit.ly/AhcQQE) in the 50s.  It&#039;s a company with excellent records of profitability even when Spain experienced deep recessions.

I think that in this day and age, thanks to the Internet, it&#039;s possible to achieve something like that for us, white-collar workers with no competence to work the land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very interested in a distributive economy, something that some can do without the whole economy becoming distributive, though the hope is that it does.</p>
<p>However, many of the early works on distributism were of a time that is not here anymore and I think that this is a problem when the scenarios of those works are transposed to our times.  Not that I think that our times are fateful, but that in our times I question the chances of long-term survival of the effort.</p>
<p>I think that we need to actualize distributism without agrarianism for it to be successful, at least to more people who have no vocation to work the land.  Perhaps the best example of such an actualization of distributism in the modern world is the Basque Mandragon Cooperative (<a href="http://bit.ly/wYwg9K" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/wYwg9K</a>), which is wholly owned by its 80000+ employees and was setup by Fr. Madariaga (<a href="http://bit.ly/AhcQQE" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/AhcQQE</a>) in the 50s.  It&#8217;s a company with excellent records of profitability even when Spain experienced deep recessions.</p>
<p>I think that in this day and age, thanks to the Internet, it&#8217;s possible to achieve something like that for us, white-collar workers with no competence to work the land.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by Devin Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I would start in your backyard, if you are allowed to have chickens there. Build a coop, get some laying hens (or raise chicks or buy pullets who will soon lay eggs), and do that for a while. Make a garden, perhaps get bees if that suits you or plant berry bushes or grape vines. In other words, start small in your own place, that way you don&#039;t have to drive anywhere.

If you can&#039;t do that for whatever reason, you can see if your town has a community garden. Typically you can rent for a nominal fee a small plot and garden there. 

To find a local farmer who might be interested, you need to make connections either in the community or via the internet. Internet-wise, here&#039;s a neat site for the Midwest that seeks to connect people who own land with small farmers: http://www.midwestfarmconnection.org/ (from this site that has lots of resources: http://fieldguideforbeginningfarmers.wikispaces.com/B.+Access+to+Land#ACCESS%20TO%20LAND). 

Also this site could help: http://www.extension.iastate.edu/bfc/

But your best bet is making local connections. Connect with local farmers in your area through farmer&#039;s markets or better yet CSAs (community supported agriculture). Where do they farm? How did they get there? Do they rent some land? Do they have internships? Do they know anyone who might rent a small plot to you or let you work their land? Etc.

For a replacement for insurance, I would suggest Christian Medishare: http://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/

It is not insurance, since that is heavily regulated (as we have seen with the HHS mandate grrr), but it works in a similar way. You pay a monthly amount (&quot;premium&quot;) based on family size and your family &quot;deductible&quot; (it&#039;s called something else but it&#039;s the same idea) and then your medical bills are matched with another family&#039;s contributions. 

So my main advice is: start now, start small, do something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I would start in your backyard, if you are allowed to have chickens there. Build a coop, get some laying hens (or raise chicks or buy pullets who will soon lay eggs), and do that for a while. Make a garden, perhaps get bees if that suits you or plant berry bushes or grape vines. In other words, start small in your own place, that way you don&#8217;t have to drive anywhere.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t do that for whatever reason, you can see if your town has a community garden. Typically you can rent for a nominal fee a small plot and garden there. </p>
<p>To find a local farmer who might be interested, you need to make connections either in the community or via the internet. Internet-wise, here&#8217;s a neat site for the Midwest that seeks to connect people who own land with small farmers: <a href="http://www.midwestfarmconnection.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.midwestfarmconnection.org/</a> (from this site that has lots of resources: <a href="http://fieldguideforbeginningfarmers.wikispaces.com/B.+Access+to+Land#ACCESS%20TO%20LAND" rel="nofollow">http://fieldguideforbeginningfarmers.wikispaces.com/B.+Access+to+Land#ACCESS%20TO%20LAND</a>). </p>
<p>Also this site could help: <a href="http://www.extension.iastate.edu/bfc/" rel="nofollow">http://www.extension.iastate.edu/bfc/</a></p>
<p>But your best bet is making local connections. Connect with local farmers in your area through farmer&#8217;s markets or better yet CSAs (community supported agriculture). Where do they farm? How did they get there? Do they rent some land? Do they have internships? Do they know anyone who might rent a small plot to you or let you work their land? Etc.</p>
<p>For a replacement for insurance, I would suggest Christian Medishare: <a href="http://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/" rel="nofollow">http://mychristiancare.org/medi-share/</a></p>
<p>It is not insurance, since that is heavily regulated (as we have seen with the HHS mandate grrr), but it works in a similar way. You pay a monthly amount (&#8220;premium&#8221;) based on family size and your family &#8220;deductible&#8221; (it&#8217;s called something else but it&#8217;s the same idea) and then your medical bills are matched with another family&#8217;s contributions. </p>
<p>So my main advice is: start now, start small, do something.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by Devin Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s cool, Tony! And thanks for the award. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s cool, Tony! And thanks for the award. <img src='http://www.devinrose.heroicvirtuecreations.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles to Going Back to the Land by Devin Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Augustine, farming is hard work. But why be afraid of hard work? The article was humorous and painted a grim picture of extremes, but there&#039;s some truth there as well. True farming is not &quot;gentlemen farming&quot; where you sip lemonade on your porch and watch the animals graze in bucolic bliss. 

So this is something to take very seriously, the work aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augustine, farming is hard work. But why be afraid of hard work? The article was humorous and painted a grim picture of extremes, but there&#8217;s some truth there as well. True farming is not &#8220;gentlemen farming&#8221; where you sip lemonade on your porch and watch the animals graze in bucolic bliss. </p>
<p>So this is something to take very seriously, the work aspect.</p>
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